Anyone trying to understand the depth of treachery which has taken place within "Protestantism" in N.Ireland over the last few years will find it essential to listen to Ivan Foster`s latest audio message. "Escaping our Father`s sins."
It will give academics, historians, journalists and the general public a glimpse into the usually hidden world of Pink Presbyteriansim.
Pink Presbyterians are deluding themsleves if they believe their denomination is going to experience a "Lazarus style" revival. The only thing they have in common with Lazarus is the plight described in John 11:39 Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.
It seems the message of "Biblical separation" which they have applied to all and sundry, is a message they find impossible to apply to themselves. Those who say they are opposed to the current ongoing treachery should depart and leave the Spiritual and political Lundies on their own but they won`t.
A good journalist should be able to get a full page story out of this, with a title such as "The Double-faced Pink Presbyterians," or "The Church that died of shame," or "The Church with more faces than the Albert Clock," or "Where have the Faith and Morals committe gone?," or "The Church that makes Lot seem like a spiritual giant" and so on and so on.
It is especially ironic when you consider the latest KOBA/Lundy party escapade.
"Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and others from the republican benches were there.
Chatting easily with them was Baroness Eileen Paisley – quiet, modest and hugely influential on the person described correctly by Speaker Willie Hay as both a man of history and a history-maker."
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Sam wrote:
"It seems the message of "Biblical separation" which they have applied to all and sundry, is a message they find impossible to apply to themselves. Those who say they are opposed to the current ongoing treachery should depart and leave the Spiritual and political Lundies on their own but they won`t."
Once again Sam you don't mince words.
Your summary and analysis of the FPC is concise and precise.
I came across this post recently here:
Summer 2007 Issue – Rome Watch
Link: http://www.1335.com/Romearch/rw0707.html
A FREE PRESBYTERIAN CLERIC'S BIBLICAL CASE AGAINST POWER-SHARING
(As a Marxist party, Sinn Fein are using the classic tactic of entryism to obtain their ultimate goal. The following excellent letters which appeared in the Newsletter indicate how ordinary Protestants really feel.)
"Having grown up in Northern Ireland and witnessed the handiwork of the IRA within my own family, it is thus grieving now to be told that there is nothing else to be done but reward these murderers with high office in government.
I thank God, however, that His Word shows us the path to a good government and it is not powersharing with murderers.
Can someone within the DUP explain to me how this new arrangement will be able to follow the Lord's example? In Psalms 9:12 we read:
“When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.”
Right-thinking people cannot imagine surely that Sinn Fein are going to hold an inquisition upon themselves!
Also I read in First Peter 2:14:
"Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”
Sadly, what we have today at the heart of these new arrangements is the concealing of the cry of innocent blood. This is not good government. It is a sham.
Also all who hail this present move as the gateway to a better future need to consider what we read in Proverbs 16:12:
"The throne is established by righteousness.”
Please note it is righteousness, not the appeasing of murderers that brings stable government; May it please God to open the ears of Ulster again to the alternative that the Bible has given. I speak as a Free Presbyterian opposed to power-sharing
Rev Richard Monteith, Caerphilly, South Wales"
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Yet Messr. Monteith remains within the utterly compromised FPC? ?
Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
Mrs;
I do know Richard Monteith. I have no idea why he and his colleagues continue in this denomination?
I have no idea why those who SAY THEY OPPOSE PopeLundys treachery remain quiet.
If they constantly condemn the treachery from the pulpit, PopeLundys cronies will do nothing they are total wimps and they have been publicly exposed as wimps.
Foster and his cronies made a big mistake when they let PopeLundy of the hook by standing down. They should have pushed the matter to an open vote and put everyone there on the spot. After all they are all supposed to be "men of God." lol
By the way the character who runs "Romewatch" is a very suspect individual. He propagates British Israelism, PopeLundy and quite a few Pink Presbyterians have said he is a sodomite. Though no one is willing to confront him face to face.
Some people have told me Mr.Alan Campbell the "Romewatch character" may have links to Kincora. I have been informed one particular journalist has a file on him but cannot publish it for legal reasons.
As I have told you before, N.Ireland is a very murky place.
I have no doubt many so-called "preachers" have been compromised and are told what to do and say by "sinister elements."
Sam wrote:
"By the way the character who runs "Romewatch" is a very suspect individual. He propagates British Israelism, PopeLundy and quite a few Pink Presbyterians have said he is a sodomite. Though no one is willing to confront him face to face."
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Thanks for the info on Alan Campbell . . I had my suspicions regarding his site after I read additional posts, etc. and examined the site more extensively.
I recall reading the letter Messr. Monteith sent to the 'Newsletter' at the time, and tried to locate it in the archives, but was unsuccessful, so for the purposes of sharing his comments with you, I used the link at this site where I found it replicated.
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Sam wrote:
"As I have told you before, N.Ireland is a very murky place.
I have no doubt many so-called "preachers" have been compromised and are told what to do and say by "sinister elements."
No doubt and perhaps those who publicly denounce Ian Paisley from within the FPC are engaging in the classic maneuver "good cop . . bad cop", and are in truth, in cahoots!
I hope and pray these things will in time be exposed.
What do you think of Rev. Mervyn Cotton, who identifies himself as a former FPC Minister?
I found his Google blogsite recently vis a vis a link at the Belfast Tel.!
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
Thx, I was not aware of Mervyn Cotton`s site. I have met him before, it is true he was a Pink Presbyterian Licientiate.
I am sure he will be quite open about answering any questions or comments you may wish to put to him.
With reference to your statement about "publicly" denouncing PopeLundy. They have run out of credibilty with their empty denounciations.
I do not know why Foster was so reticent about naming all those who weere too spineless to tell PopeLundy to his face what he was doing was wrong, they do not deserve to be treated with such sensitivity.
The denounciations are meaningless, they must act, the denomination must publicly denounce the Terrocratic set up as "Unethical, Unbiblical and Immoral and they must discipline all members who have took part in it and encouraged it.
But you can be sure they will not. Nor will they separate from it!
Sam,
Thanks again for your reply to my most recent post.
I found a link to this article at Sermon Audio sometime ago. Have you ever read it?
I found the article to be both a thoughtful and scriptural analysis of the N.I. Power-sharing government. The author, Shaun Willcock, goes into some detail as to his past dealings with Ian Paisley on a visit to N.I. some years ago, and draws parallels between the present South African communist government and that of Northern Ireland. On the whole, I have found his website, Bible Based Ministries, to be scriptural and doctrinally sound.
Article: 'Sinn Fein/IRA Triumphant in Northern Ireland'
http://www.biblebasedministries.co.uk/2006/11/30/sinn-feinira-triumphant-in-northern-ireland/
EXCERPT:
“In a move that shocked Protestants across Northern Ireland and around the world, Free Presbyterian minister and leader of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), Ian Paisley, agreed to his party forming a power-sharing government with Sinn Fein, the Roman Catholic/Marxist party behind the diabolical, murderous Irish Republican Army (IRA). And the coalition government came into being on May 8, 2007, with the devolution of power from London to the Northern Ireland Assembly. Ian Paisley became First Minister in the new government, with Martin McGuiness of Sinn Fein/IRA becoming Deputy First Minister. Although many, weary of the years of conflict in Northern Ireland, think that this coalition government is actually a good thing, or at least “better than the alternative”, it is not. It is nothing less than an alliance with murderers and terrorists – and such an alliance can never, ever be a good thing. As the Scripture says: “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn” (Prov. 29:2).”
About the Author:
Shaun Willcock is a minister of the Gospel. He runs Bible Based Ministries, the purpose of which is to teach the Word of God, and to expose and biblically refute Roman Catholicism, its “daughter” institutions, its assaults upon the Christian faith and the Christian Church, and the various Popish trappings to be found even amongst true Christians. He is the author of a number of books, and various other publications.
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If and when you have time, I'd like your thoughts on the article.
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
I have heard about Shaun Wilcock but I do not know very much about him.
The artitcle you posted by him is all very well and good BUT it does not tell people in N.Ireland anything they do not already know.
Protestants in N.Ireland know about the IRA and Roman Catholicism. What they cannot grasp is the fact that Roman Catholicism is more than religion it is an evil political power.
Its real political powers are exercised by its control over Intel agencies.
Protestants in N.Ireland cannot grasp the fact that the IRA is controlled by MI5/MI6. They cannot grasp the fact that the "British government" of any particular political make-up is in fact Vatican controlled.
This is one of the glaring inaccuracies of PopeLundy`s career, he never pointed out to N.Ireland Protestants who the real enemy was and is.
This is in fact pointed out by Phelps which is very strange when you think about it.
How can someone in the USA get an accurate picture of what has been going on in N.Ireland and the so-called great Protestant leader seems ignorant of the fact?
Why are so many so called Protestant political and religious leaders so anxious to have the issues of the past closed?
Why were the former RUC officers prevented from fully investigating many of the atrocities committed against the Protestant community?
They were all committed by Roman Catholics IRA men who were in fact "Britsish agents."
Do you really think it is believable that cretins like J118 and Adams were capable of running a 30 year terror campaign without serious help?
If "Unionist gunmen" had been directed against MI5 agents in the early 1970`s there would have been no IRA, no 30 year terror campaign, no "peace process," no Gerry Adams, no Martin McGuiness and no 3,000 odd victims.
Sam,
You gotta go to Sermon Audio and see the latest 'news item' on Paisley.
With all his compromise, he presumes to speak on behalf of evangelical Christianity . . unbelievable!
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Source: REUTERS
Pope Benedict's visit to UK a "mistake" - Paisley
The preacher, who stepped down from the post of Northern Ireland first minister in 2008, said the pope should not have been invited for the four-day visit in September during which he will meet the queen at her official residence in Scotland.
It will be the first official papal visit to the country.
"I think it is a mistake," Paisley said, when asked what he thought of the visit. "I think he should not be invited to the country."
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Your pointed comments would be most welcome at SA.
If anyone can neutralize / silence Paisley, it's you!
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
Thx for the info, I am running very late today in catching up with the news.
They do not allow my commnets on sermonfraudio.
A friend told me earlier this item had been discussed on "The Steven Nolan Show" Radio Ulster.
I hope to listen to it later.
Can you download Steven Nolan show in your country?
(I inadvertently posted this comment at the article above this one, but intended it here)
Sam wrote:
They do not allow my commnets on sermonfraudio.
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I might have known as much . .
so much for Democracy!
I see Joe Bloggs made a comment there.
Sam wrote:
"A friend told me earlier this item had been discussed on "The Steven Nolan Show" Radio Ulster.
I hope to listen to it later.
Can you download Steven Nolan show in your country?"
No Sam, it is not accessible in the US.
By the way, the article re Paisley's lukewarm comments regarding the pope's upcoming visit to the UK is also posted at the Newsletter today.
As always, I await your plain-spoken analysis on this latest development in the chronicles of Ian Paisley.
Kindest Regards,
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