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COL 1: 25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
This is what you have written as the answer to what the term “revelation of the mystery” means.
“ill tell you what i believe 25 and v 26 of ist colossians is saying paul was shown the revelation of the mystery the church the body of christ which was hidden in God from ALL generations but was first shown to paul.”
Unfortunately the 2 verses you mention Col 1:25+26 do not mention anything “About the church the body of Christ”.
Nor does it mention anything being “HIDDEN IN GOD”.
Nor do the verses mention ALL generations.
Nor do the verses mention anything being FIRST SHOWN TO PAUL.
PAUL`S MESSAGE
Paul declares he bore witness to the the same truths Moses and the prophets spoke of; did Moses and the prophets know of “the mystery?”
Acts 26:22+23 22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Paul preached what Christ preached; “my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ” are the same.
Romans 16:25-27 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen
Scripture states Paul was; separted unto the" Gospel of God" Roms 1. This is the same gospel he refers to as "my gospel" in Roms 16:25
This is what you have written as the answer to what the term “revelation of the mystery” means.
“ill tell you what i believe 25 and v 26 of ist colossians is saying paul was shown the revelation of the mystery the church the body of christ which was hidden in God from ALL generations but was first shown to paul.”
Unfortunately the 2 verses you mention Col 1:25+26 do not mention anything “About the church the body of Christ”.
Nor does it mention anything being “HIDDEN IN GOD”.
Nor do the verses mention ALL generations.
Nor do the verses mention anything being FIRST SHOWN TO PAUL.
PAUL`S MESSAGE
Paul declares he bore witness to the the same truths Moses and the prophets spoke of; did Moses and the prophets know of “the mystery?”
Acts 26:22+23 22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Paul preached what Christ preached; “my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ” are the same.
Romans 16:25-27 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen
Scripture states Paul was; separted unto the" Gospel of God" Roms 1. This is the same gospel he refers to as "my gospel" in Roms 16:25
Romans 1:1-4 King James Version
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
PAUL`S MINISTRY
Epraphras is declared by Paul to be "a faithful minister of Christ", the Colossians had heard the truth from him, was Paul a different minister than Epaphras?
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
PAUL`S MINISTRY
Epraphras is declared by Paul to be "a faithful minister of Christ", the Colossians had heard the truth from him, was Paul a different minister than Epaphras?
Col 1:1-7 1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints,
5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:
7 As ye also learned of Epaphras our dear fellowservant, who is for you a faithful minister of Christ;
PAUL`S (supposed) MYSTERY
2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints,
5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:
7 As ye also learned of Epaphras our dear fellowservant, who is for you a faithful minister of Christ;
PAUL`S (supposed) MYSTERY
The body of Christ existed before Paul was converted.
The fact that believers were “added to the church” (Acts 2:47), and also “added to the Lord” (Acts 5:14) before Paul’s conversion, indicate that the body existed prior to Paul.
[Stam does NOT comment on Acts 5:14 in his commentary,[16] nor does Sadler in his booklet The Historical Beginning of the Church!]
Additionally, 1 Cor. 12:13 proves that Paul was preaching the mystery of the body before Acts 18!
Other verses that prove conclusively that the body of Christ was present before Paul are listed below:
Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: . . .
Romans 16:7 King James Version 7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
"Who also were in Christ before me." Andronicus and Junia, were they in Christ but in darkness concerning the mystery?
The fact that believers were “added to the church” (Acts 2:47), and also “added to the Lord” (Acts 5:14) before Paul’s conversion, indicate that the body existed prior to Paul.
[Stam does NOT comment on Acts 5:14 in his commentary,[16] nor does Sadler in his booklet The Historical Beginning of the Church!]
Additionally, 1 Cor. 12:13 proves that Paul was preaching the mystery of the body before Acts 18!
Other verses that prove conclusively that the body of Christ was present before Paul are listed below:
Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: . . .
Romans 16:7 King James Version 7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
"Who also were in Christ before me." Andronicus and Junia, were they in Christ but in darkness concerning the mystery?
Romans 16:7 is so clear that hyper-dispensationalists must make a difference between being “in Christ,” and “in the body of Christ.”
Joel Finck writes in The Berean Searchlight: “Being ‘in Christ’ is not necessarily the same as being ‘in the body’ of Christ.”[17]
This is a grave inaccuracy. Paul said that the Corinthians were “in Christ” (1 Cor. 1:30) and also that they were “the body of Christ.” (1 Cor 12:27).
Joel Finck writes in The Berean Searchlight: “Being ‘in Christ’ is not necessarily the same as being ‘in the body’ of Christ.”[17]
This is a grave inaccuracy. Paul said that the Corinthians were “in Christ” (1 Cor. 1:30) and also that they were “the body of Christ.” (1 Cor 12:27).
The body began before Paul; Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the emnity thereby;
1Peter 1:18-21
18Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
The term “mystery” is better understood as hidden truth, which a Sovereign God graciously reveals to his saints, not something which has never been revealed to anyone.
HOW DO CHRISTIANS IN N. IRELAND CONTINUE TO PROP UP A TERROCRATIC REGIME AT STORMONT MONASTERY ? NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL A REAL MYSTERY!!
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
The term “mystery” is better understood as hidden truth, which a Sovereign God graciously reveals to his saints, not something which has never been revealed to anyone.
HOW DO CHRISTIANS IN N. IRELAND CONTINUE TO PROP UP A TERROCRATIC REGIME AT STORMONT MONASTERY ? NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL A REAL MYSTERY!!
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