A most unusual career end for a so-called "Bible-believing" Protestant, relegation to the "House of Horrors" at Westminster.
This is the reward for treachery and deceit, no doubt there are places in store for Sir Peter Punt, Sir Nigel Lundy and all the others. Too bad Iris will miss the party, recent revelations would lead us to conclude that she would feel quite at home there!
This is the reward for treachery and deceit, no doubt there are places in store for Sir Peter Punt, Sir Nigel Lundy and all the others. Too bad Iris will miss the party, recent revelations would lead us to conclude that she would feel quite at home there!
The is just one of the sleazy characters who illustrate the UK`s "honour`s system."
Sir James Dunnett.
Gay News (29th September 1983) carried a short article on Vikki De Lambray
(formerly David Christian Lloyd-Gibbon), famous gay socialite, convicted High
Society art thief, and apparent MI5 tempter/temptress.
Gay News (29th September 1983) carried a short article on Vikki De Lambray
(formerly David Christian Lloyd-Gibbon), famous gay socialite, convicted High
Society art thief, and apparent MI5 tempter/temptress.
The article notes Lambray's brief sexual relationship, in 1982, with Sir James Dunnett, former Permanent Under- Secretary of State at the Ministry of Defence, and with Captain Anatoli Zotov, former Soviet Naval attache. The affair was probed by MI5 for possible security leaks.
Sir James is interesting in that he was at the Ministry of Defence from the arrival of
British troops in Northern Ireland in 1969, until 1974 when he retired. He is alleged to know a great deal about Kincoragate.
Lambray's 900 page autobiography happened to go missing. MI5 was highly pleased - the book named names. (Guardian 28th July 1983)
British troops in Northern Ireland in 1969, until 1974 when he retired. He is alleged to know a great deal about Kincoragate.
Lambray's 900 page autobiography happened to go missing. MI5 was highly pleased - the book named names. (Guardian 28th July 1983)
Revelation 3:13-15
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
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Sam,
I found this comment at the Bel Tel article written by David Gordon entitled, 'Praise the Lord, but let’s not ignore his past deeds'
Is this an accurate description of Ian Paisley?
"Christieboy 59p · 1 day ago
Someone once said that satire died when Kissinger was awarded the ***el Peace prize.. I suppose something similar could be voiced at the elevation of Mr. Paisley to the House of Lords.....I'm afraid if one views his career from start to finish, it was always about his ego.....He helped destroy the careers of many politicians from Terence O'Neill onwards, using many pejoratives such as treachery to blacken their reputations, every time it looked like there might be a possibility of a rapprochemont with the Nationalist people.In the end he did exactly what he condemned others for doing, and thousands of unnecessary deaths later......I doubt if history will be kind to him."
Can you enlarge on this?
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
Sam, just as I predicted!
Sermon Audio posted an article from the BBC (where no comments are elicited, as opposed to the Bel Tel where they are) regarding Ian Paisley's “elevation” to the House of Lords today and the thread was closed almost immediately.
John Yurich, a self-avowed R.C., made a comment unfavorable to the "Big Man", that began with these words:
“John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course Pastry will be spewing his hatred for the Catholic Church and all Non Evangelical Protestant Churches. Pastry needs to be more Christ like”
Note the reference to “Pastry”. The guy has a sense of humor, or maybe he read about the extravagant food allowance Paisley had at Westminster.
His comments were replicated by way of response by someone who sought to defend Paisley, undoubtedly a family member.
His comment remains in tact, and in keeping with SA's policy of allowing diverse opinions,
John Yurich's comment was deleted and the thread closed!
Sermon Audio is nothing more than a propaganda tool for Pope Paisley and his duped followers.
SERMON FRAUDIO indeed!
Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
Sam,
Just as I predicted . . . SermonAudio posted the BBC article on Paisley's “elevation” to the House of Lords. This was chosen deliberately as BBC, unlike the Belfast Telegraph, does not elicit comments from their readers.
It appeared briefly today as a 'breaking news' item, but within hours, relegated to old news, with the thread being officially closed to subsequent comments.
Before it was closed, John Yurich, a self-avowed R.C. Made a comment denouncing Paisley, which was promptly deleted.
A subsequent comment made by someone who wished to respond to his remarks and come to the defense of Paisley replicated the comment of Yurich in part, which read:
“John Yurich USA wrote:
“Of course Pastry will be spewing his hatred for the Catholic Church and all Non Evangelical Protestant Churches. Pastry needs to be more Christ like”
Note the reference to Pastry . . he must have read about Paisley's excessive food allowance at Westminster.
I have come to the conclusion that Sermon Audio is nothing more than a propaganda tool for pope Paisley. Those expressing opinions unfavorable to the “Big Man” are not welcome!
I did observe that the majority of comments made in connection with a number of articles / editorials at the Bel Tel regarding Paisley's latest honorarium were negative. He's not as popular as some would have us believe!
Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
David Gordon`s article is interesting. Though it must be remembered PopeLundy was not a lone figure stirring people up. There were plenty of other individuals not so prominent who were active as well.
It is quite possible if PopeLundy had not existed some other figure would have come to the fore. The fears which people had and still have about Popery are very real and valid.
The Ulster Unionist population did not merely imagine an IRA onslaught against them, it relly took place.
The big question which still remains about the whole affair is what caused him to do his now infamous uturn?
The second biggest question is why were so many in the Pink Pres and the DUP willing to go along with it without question?
You do not have to be a genius to work out why!
Sam,
What do you think about Mr. Trimble?
Did he not do essentially the same thing as Paisley much earlier in the course of the Troubles.
And did not Paisley brand him at the time a traitor?
As a former Roman Catholic, for I am not ignorant of Satan's devices.
I do indeed perceive the threat that Rome's politico-religio system has posed over the course of history, and continues to pose to this day to be very real.
But while Rome has no qualms about employing carnal warfare, and as followers of the Antichrist, are quite willing to utilize every form of Jesuit deceit, craft and cunning to achieve their ends in the battle for mens' souls, and world domination, including violence, aren't we as Christians to engage the enemies of God and His Gospel with spiritual weapons? (Eph. 6)
Christ's kingdom after all is not of this world, nor are His people of this world. Though we are in the world, yet are we strangers, sojourners, and pilgrims on the earth.
I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this matter in the light of Scripture.
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
Your understanding of Trimble and Paisley is correct.
Trimble did the treachery earlier BUT he could not carry the majority of the Unionist electorate with him, even his own party were divided on the matter.
Trimble became leader of the UUP partly because the illusion was created that he was seen to be a hardliner.
Keep in mind the fact Trimble never pretended he was not going to go into government with IRA men, he was open about it.
One thing will reveal the true nature of Trimble to people like yourself. He met the Pope, you know fine well the only peopple who meet the Pope are those who work for the Pope! Either publicly working for him or privately working for him.
Trimble fell largely due to the pressure kept on him by the DUP. The DUP eventually became the biggest party and a big percentage of the vote came from people who never believed Paisley would do a deal with the IRA.
He and his party never declared at any time before the crucial election they would go into government with the IRA.
As to your reference about spiritual weapons, I think the verse which states we should have "the wisdom of the serpent and the harmlessness of the dove" epitomises the Christian warfare.
I am sure you have suspected by now it is highly likely the "British" intellignece services have the dirt on every "Unionist" leader or potential leader and they will use it to make that particular individual do their bidding at the appropriate moment.
For exmaple;
If you do the research on the guy I mentioned, Robin Bryans, you will find he went to the same theological college as Ian Paisley.
If you do a little more research you will find he claims to have "shared a caravan" with a fellow called Denis Parry.
Denis Parry shared the same bedroom with Ian Paisley at Bible College, it is claimed.
Robin Bryans was a sodomite, a sodomite with "intelligence connections." Chris Moore mentions him in his Kincora book.
If this had been made public in N.Ireland in the 1960`s or 70`s Paisley`s career would have been well and truly sunk!
The smear effect of this would have been devastating. Parry is conveniently dead.
All that was needed was for Bryans to say he had a sodomite relationship with Parry, a few chosen "journalists" to give credence to the story and it is good bye to anyone`s political career.
mrs;
Your understanding of Trimble and Paisley is correct.
Trimble did the treachery earlier BUT he could not carry the majority of the Unionist electorate with him, even his own party were divided on the matter.
Trimble became leader of the UUP partly because the illusion was created that he was seen to be a hardliner.
Keep in mind the fact Trimble never pretended he was not going to go into government with IRA men, he was open about it.
One thing will reveal the true nature of Trimble to people like yourself. He met the Pope, you know fine well the only peopple who meet the Pope are those who work for the Pope! Either publicly working for him or privately working for him.
Trimble fell largely due to the pressure kept on him by the DUP. The DUP eventually became the biggest party and a big percentage of the vote came from people who never believed Paisley would do a deal with the IRA.
He and his party never declared at any time before the crucial election they would go into government with the IRA.
As to your reference about spiritual weapons, I think the verse which states we should have "the wisdom of the serpent and the harmlessness of the dove" epitomises the Christian warfare.
I am sure you have suspected by now it is highly likely the "British" intellignece services have the dirt on every "Unionist" leader or potential leader and they will use it to make that particular individual do their bidding at the appropriate moment.
For exmaple;
If you do the research on the guy I mentioned, Robin Bryans, you will find he went to the same theological college as Ian Paisley.
If you do a little more research you will find he claims to have "shared a caravan" with a fellow called Denis Parry.
Denis Parry shared the same bedroom with Ian Paisley at Bible College, it is claimed.
Robin Bryans was a sodomite, a sodomite with "intelligence connections." Chris Moore mentions him in his Kincora book.
If this had been made public in N.Ireland in the 1960`s or 70`s Paisley`s career would have been well and truly sunk!
The smear effect of this would have been devastating. Parry is conveniently dead.
All that was needed was for Bryans to say he had a sodomite relationship with Parry, a few chosen "journalists" to give credence to the story and it is good bye to anyone`s political career.
Sam,
Thank you for taking time to answer my question (s).
Same wrote:
"Trimble fell largely due to the pressure kept on him by the DUP. The DUP eventually became the biggest party and a big percentage of the vote came from people who never believed Paisley would do a deal with the IRA.
He and his party never declared at any time before the crucial election they would go into government with the IRA."
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That would make Paisley more the traitor than trimble ever was!
At least Trimble was up front about it, Paisley on the other hand, was deceitful, and as a Gospel Minister, by his actions, brought the Cause of Christ into disrepute.
From what I can deduce then, he not only used the cause of the Unionist Community, but even more despicable, he used the Cause of Christ to advance his own cause, his own agenda, his own ambition and his personal lust for power.
Am I right in my assessment of him?
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
Judging from what is presently known, I would say your assessment is correct.
Though I would add he could not have done what he has done without the help of others.
I would appreciate it if you could lets us know anything you come across in your country about Paisley or other similar scenarios.
You may well discover something we know nothing about.
Keep in mind a similar Paedo scenario was being carried out within the "Republican community."
Are we supposed to assume MI5 never knew about the abusive nature of Gerry Adams father until it was recently uncovered?????????
What a joke.
Sam wrote,
I would appreciate it if you could lets us know anything you come across in your country about Paisley or other similar scenarios.
You may well discover something we know nothing about.
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I most surely will Sam, but that seems unlikely, unless I stumble upon it.
On the other hand, I wonder how many news stories over the years broke as a result of some obscure news hound, like myself, making inquiries? ? You just never know!
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Sam wrote:
Keep in mind a similar Paedo scenario was being carried out within the "Republican community."
Are we supposed to assume MI5 never knew about the abusive nature of Gerry Adams father until it was recently uncovered?????????
What a joke.
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So it's a matter of blackmail then?
And all the goods on these characters are locked in file cabinets, Paisley included, and the key has been effectively lost!
Notwithstanding, I'm sure you would agree that that does not absolve Ian Paisley, et al, for his actions, nor those who were complicit with him in doing the deal with SF / IRA?
I wonder too how many FPC ministers and/or rank and file Free Presbyterian members are privy to this information?
One has to wonder as well how there could not be at least one amongst them whose conscience would so trouble them, they would spill the beans? Foster said Paisley became part of the Establishment when he left the pulpit to enter the murky world of politics.
From what I have observed, Paisley does not resemble a Christian, I refer of course to his character, but appears rather to be a man of the world . . indeed a very cunning and crafty man, and I pay him no compliment in pointing that out. From what I have read about his wife, the Baroness, and in the words of Ian himself, she is the boss. I used to wonder why you referred to her as Jezebel in prior posts, but no more!
Do you think he belongs in jail, along with McGuinness?
Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
I most surely will Sam, but that seems unlikely, unless I stumble upon it.
On the other hand, I wonder how many news stories over the years broke as a result of some obscure news hound, like myself, making inquiries? ? You just never know!
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There are things that may be secret in N.Ireland BUT may be known to some former or present members of your country`s Intel agency, whom you may stumble across some day.
Look what Ahasuerus stumbled across when he could not sleep! The Russians probably know more about Kincora than anyone else, after all that is who Anthony Blunt thought he was working for!
All these agents and double-agents think they are very clever, when in fact they are all working for the Vatican without realising it!
As you say you just never know!
mrs;
I just read you comments about Free P ministers etc!
It is the easiest thing in the world today to compromise a "minister."
Just monitor their IP adresses, it won`t be long before you catch one or perhaps even his wife surfing a porn site!
You dont even need to catch all of the ministers of one denomination, just some of the "most influential ones."
Operation Ore! I am sure you have heard of it?
Sam wrote:
"Operation Ore! I am sure you have heard of it?"
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No Sam, I have not. I don't think I know as much as you suspect I do. I'm no Julia Child!
Quite simply, Paisley has become somewhat of a case study for me.
There is abundant information regarding his public personna on the Internet, much of it disturbing, that has peaked my curiosity, and greatly aroused my suspicions of him.
His dual role as preacher and politician is irreconcilable to me, as apparently it was for John Wylie, but as you have pointed out, not so much as to cause a rift between them.
Do you recall if other Protestant ministers ever rebuked him when he entered politics?
Kindest Regards,
Mrs. O'Leary
mrs;
I cannot recollect any other minister rebuking him in any meaningful way.
There were other ministers who entered politics with him, Ivan Foster was one of them.
I may be hard for you to understand but there was a widespread feeling among ordinary Unionists that the politicians of that day were weak and lacking in Protestant principle.
Paisley hs always maintained it was "the people" who urged him to go into politics.
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